Getting Jealous and Trying to Get Jealousy

I’m single now, but have been in long term relationships, one which was almost five years long. Even though been cheated on, abandoned, and I still don’t get the whole jealousy thing.

I don’t understand the purpose being jealous. Feeling threatened by other people or even (ahem) objects just shows a lack of trust in the other person and security with one self. It’s also a major turn off.

I equally don’t get it when other couples tip toe around, being careful not to make the other person jealous.

I’m not saying I haven’t done stupid things like neglected friendships when being in relationships. However, I have never thought to give up one on one encounters with people of the opposite sex just because of the status of being in a relationship. I (surprise) connect with guys. I enjoy their company in an entirely non-sexual way.

Many of them are gay and many of them have relationships of their own anyways. Sometimes I’m in a big group, and sometimes, one on one with a person. I don’t think you give up that right to have plans with your friends when you enter into a relationship, even if the friend is of the opposite sex and even if it’s just the you two doing something together. I have always been more likely to hang out with people one on one or in a very small group, so maybe that’s why I don’t see anything wrong with people keeping their other close knit friends no matter what their relationship status.

If anything, maybe a guy should take care with women having gay and bisexual women friends. It makes the same amount of sense.

If a boyfriend or husband ever tried to tell me to not hang out with someone, how would I handle it? I think I would have a hard time seeing their point of view, though I’d try. I’ve let guys come between be and friends too much in the past. There just has to be enough trust to allow that most important person in your life have other people be important in theirs. If your significant other isn’t worthy of your trust, what are you doing trusting them enough to be in any kind of relationship with you?

Do you worry about flirting? Anything can be flirting. Anything can be interpreted as flirting. Worrying about that is like worrying about a ‘your mom’ joke. It isn’t serious unless it’s serious, and really, how often is that?

I’d give any guy the same free reign I expect from them, to hang out with whoever. The guys who are going to cheat on me will whether or not I try to control their friendships. They are not worth keeping anyways. If I can’t trust someone without monitoring them, then I can’t trust them at all.

I guess the most important thing is to make sure you’re on the same page in a relationship. If you’re not, that could take some serious discussion. It’s probably a better discussion to have before hand than after the fact. Different people have different boundaries and limits, and for those to be respected, they have to be known first. Then, I guess, you can tackle the obstacle of trying to understand why and coming to some sort of understanding.

  • Jim

    Jealousy is counterproductive in a relationship. It goes straight to a lack of trust, possessiveness (there are way too many esses in that word for my taste) or a combination of both.

  • I agree…
    …there are far too many esses in that word.

  • Michael

    I think you have jealousy all wrong. It is *essential*. Having it on a hair-trigger is self-destructive, but it needs to be near the surface, ready to pounce.

    Jim: I see no correlation between jealousy and a lack of trust. Jealousy and possessiveness (and all its glorious esses) on the other hand, yes very much agree there. I am insanely possessive of my wife, and I make no apologies.

  • SteveJ

    I think you nailed it with the boundaries and limits. Two people that get into a relationship often have very different interpretations for what is…searching for better term…non-sexual behavior. And that’s leaving out the number of people who are complete hypocrites. Is kissing ok? Location, duration, relationship with kissee, might all play a part in your reaction. Touching, hugging, tickling, wrestling – where’s your line? Me personally, if I can do it with my same sex (as a hetero male), it’s cool, I’m not crossing a line. So hugging, wrestling ok, kissing, not so much. My wife can do what she likes, if I was worried I wouldn’t have married her. A large part of that is due to my awareness of her boundaries though, she is less of a touchy person than I am. I believe there’s also some conditioning there, I’ll unconsciously avoid behaviors she’d find distasteful like throwing my friends in nearby bodies of water. Perhaps that’s what they mean by growing up.

    I’m not sure a truly possessive person can find happiness, they basically want a leech, right?

  • You gave up throwing friends in the pool for her?

    Man, now that’s love.

  • Wow, we have the opposite ends of the spectrum here.

    If any of you fight, just don’t get any blood on my blog. ;)

    It may be that there is a distinction between the sort of protectiveness Michael is taking about and the destructive, mistrustful, possessive jealousy we were touching on. Labels and definitions of words and all…

    I’m not going to say I understand Michael’s point of view exactly, but I respect it. If you and your wife are happy and it works for you… :)

  • SteveJ

    @Michael,

    I really need to hear more about this, why is jealousy essential? Am I missing out?